Commander Mode on Unranked Servers

[expandas]

note: I've cleaned up the OP so that all pertinent information is easily understood, accessible, and accurate. If you're reading this now, please skip to page three for discussion. Jokerle's findings on vars.unlockMode can be found here, and my findings on factions and unranked/private server settings are located here.

We all know that Battlefield 4 multiplayer has a feature called commander mode where one player can observe and direct the flow of battle from a bird's eye view. This could really change the way that battles are executed in GC, but one of the requirements for accessing this feature is that the commander must have a rank of ten or higher. This isn't seen as a crippling issue for gameplay on ranked and official servers where prior experience is valued, but GC battledays have traditionally been waged on servers using unranked settings where all weapons and attachments are unlocked. The server setting that allows for this, vars.unlockMode, has an unfortunate side effect of also setting players' ranks to -1, which is less than the rank of ten required by commander mode. This means that if vars.unlockMode is enabled, all weapons and attachments are unlocked by server, players will not be able to use commander mode. On the other hand, if vars.unlockMode is disabled, the server will use player statistics from their progress on ranked servers to determine which weapons and unlocks they can use. This also allows players that have attained the rank of ten or higher to become their team's commander. This may not seem like a big issue, but not everyone at GC is willing or has the time to grind for weapons and unlocks in multiplayer servers and would rather just be able to use whichever weapon they like. Because these two options are currently mutually exclusive, the community needs to discuss how to approach this problem and what to do in the event that this bug is not addressed by DICE in the foreseeable future.

[KoffeinFlummi]

the server must be set private.

Which it always is?

[expandas]

the server must be set private.

Which it always is?

[KoffeinFlummi]

What exactly are you trying to tell me?

[A Docile Sloth]

The servers for GC have always been private as long as I've been here.

[Hitman47]

Did he say....

.........................................................................PRIVATE???!!!

[expandas]

Private and unranked are two separate server settings for Battlefield 4. Unranked servers don't have commander mode, while private servers don't give you all unlocks.

edit: What the heck Hitman, your trolling isn't welcome in this thread.

[Sarantini]

Private and unranked are two separate server settings for Battlefield 4. Unranked servers don't have commander mode, while private servers don't give you all unlocks.

That's pretty stupid... Private should give you everything but oh well.

Then I think it should be unranked. Rank 10 isn't that hard to get. When it is set to private you might have issues where players don't have all the gadgets for kits they play less or don't have the the desired loadout for gunning in tanks or something when we are low on armour players.

[expandas]

It makes no difference what rank you are on ranked/official servers because an unranked server will set everyone to a null rank.

[Hitman47]

Well, apparently the latest R7 server update documentation and server manual says you're full of crap, under server types there is no "private", and unranked servers may use password.

link:http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/ne ... rver-docs/

[Sarantini]

Oh yeah you said it in the OP.
GG DICE

[.Sup]

Well, apparently the latest R7 server update documentation and server manual says you're full of crap, under server types there is no "private", and unranked servers may use password.

link:http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/ne ... rver-docs/

My toilet is full of crap.
Is there a way to set it both ranked and private?

[expandas]

Well, apparently the latest R7 server update documentation and server manual says you're full of crap, under server types there is no "private", and unranked servers may use password.

link:http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/ne ... rver-docs/

One step ahead of you, old dog. Just because something isn't mentioned doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

viewtopic.php?f=309&t=23246#p252044
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwnosY ... sp=sharing

According to this EA rep, there is no difference between unranked and private servers besides meta information visibility in Battlelog. Neither private servers nor unranked servers currently allow the use of commander mode.

[Jokerle]

the private server setting is mentioned in the remote server admin document.

[Hitman47]

Well, apparently the latest R7 server update documentation and server manual says you're full of crap, under server types there is no "private", and unranked servers may use password.

link:http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/ne ... rver-docs/

One step ahead of you, old dog. Just because something isn't mentioned doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

viewtopic.php?f=309&t=23246#p252044

According to this EA rep, there is no difference between unranked and private servers besides meta information visibility in Battlelog. Neither private servers nor unranked servers currently allow the use of commander mode.

you linked this thread...