I don't care if he's the creator, He's still wrong!
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I don't care if he's the creator, He's still wrong!
Gwynzer will be happy, but I still say logically, the "jif" pronunciation makes no sense. Graphics doesn't start with a soft G, so why would the acronym be pronounced with one...
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gif (hard g) is an animated image. jif is peanut butter. stop playing word games.
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Re: I don't care if he's the creator, He's still wrong!
It doesnt matter what you think. If he is the creator, hes got the last word on the matter.
Accept it as an honor to the maker whos work you use.
Accept it as an honor to the maker whos work you use.
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How to you say giraffe?
Its also with a soft g that sounds like a j, isnt it?
Its also with a soft g that sounds like a j, isnt it?
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I have used the fact that the creator of the format says it's a soft G as one of my primary arguments for saying it correctly.
Soft GIF even just sounds nicer to come off the tongue than hard GIF, I don't see why anyone has a problem with it.
Soft GIF even just sounds nicer to come off the tongue than hard GIF, I don't see why anyone has a problem with it.
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Giraffe isn't an acronymJokerle wrote:How to you say giraffe?
Its also with a soft g that sounds like a j, isnt it?
GIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format
How do you say Graphics? Jraphics? No.
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TheYonderGod wrote:Giraffe isn't an acronymJokerle wrote:How to you say giraffe?
Its also with a soft g that sounds like a j, isnt it?
GIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format
How do you say Graphics? Jraphics? No.
I am saying that the "i" after the g makes the g soft. As does usually the "e", i.e. in the name George.
As a made up word it is debatable what kind of rules apply and what is used most by people (languages evolve constantly).
If both version soft and hard are used by people than both are correct. However, historically[1] the soft g seems to fit better into the picture.
[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_G)
This alternation has its origins in a historical palatalization of /ɡ/ which took place in Late Latin, and led to a change in the pronunciation of the sound [ɡ] before the front vowels [e] and .[1] Later, other languages not descended from Latin, such as English, inherited this feature as an orthographic convention.
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If you want to pronounce it letter by letter, sure. Acronyms are pronounced as per the word they create, not on the original word.
GUI - Interface is soft i, we see "ee".
DIY, pronounced as letters. The I is a hard i, but the word "it" is soft.
ETA, E and T are soft in the full version, not the acronym.
ASAP. The first A is hard, the second is soft, despite both A's standing for the same word.
GIF has a soft G, but Graphics is a hard G.
GUI - Interface is soft i, we see "ee".
DIY, pronounced as letters. The I is a hard i, but the word "it" is soft.
ETA, E and T are soft in the full version, not the acronym.
ASAP. The first A is hard, the second is soft, despite both A's standing for the same word.
GIF has a soft G, but Graphics is a hard G.
Not quite. The soft G has been deemed the correct term by the creator who has said that hard G is WRONG. Just because a large amount of people say it a different way, it doesn't make them correct. It's like for "all intents and puproses." Anyone who says "For all intensive purposes"(Which is a substantial amount) when trying to use the former is wrong, despite the large volume of people who say it that way.Jokerle wrote:If both version soft and hard are used by people than both are correct.
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@Gwynzer: One can distingish between initialisms and acronyms
http://www.lyberty.com/encyc/articles/abbr.html,
though the classification is not always clear.
Using wrong words is different than using another pronouncation. The spoken language adopts much faster than the written one, and it constantly changes. I am sure one can find examples in English were it did in the last 50 years.
http://www.lyberty.com/encyc/articles/abbr.html,
though the classification is not always clear.
Using wrong words is different than using another pronouncation. The spoken language adopts much faster than the written one, and it constantly changes. I am sure one can find examples in English were it did in the last 50 years.
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I've never heard of an initialism. TIL.
Is it a real word? It doesn't show up in my dictionary.
Is it a real word? It doesn't show up in my dictionary.
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Buy a new one?Gwynzer wrote: Is it a real word? It doesn't show up in my dictionary.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definitio ... initialism
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Damn right! This is the correct and only way to pronounce itTheYonderGod wrote: