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New PC

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:21 am
by Hashey
Ok, so i finally got some money to start getting the stuff for a new pc(offcourse a better and faster one that i got now). I'm trying to salvage as much as i can from my current one, but i doubt it will help me a lot with that.

What i need new:

Tower
Processor
Motherboard
GFX Card
RAM Memory

What i was thinking of getting new:
Sound card
Harddrive(maybe even add an external HD)

Also wanted to get some other stuff like fan's for gfx card or perhaps a watercooler.

You will probably say that it all depends on the price i got/im willing to spend on it, but lets just say that i got enough.

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:04 pm
by Goggles
exciting! It's always fun getting a new computer together :)

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:43 pm
by ASSCobra
the first question is: Intel or AMD
the second question is: for gaming only? (most of the time)

Re: New PC

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:52 pm
by Shrapnel
Hashey wrote:You will probably say that it all depends on the price i got/im willing to spend on it, but lets just say that i got enough.
There's no such thing as "enough." You can spend as much as you want even up into the millions of dollars if you had the resources and inclination.

Water cooling solutions start around $300 and go up from there. The cheesy ones you see for less actually preform worse than a good air cooling system at half the cost.

Which processor to use is the main decision. It will determine what mobo and type of RAM you will need to get. Right now I'm of the opinion that the Intel Core Duo is the best price to performance chip for a mid to high priced system ($250-350 for the processor). Below and above that point the AMDs have them beat.

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:00 pm
by ph1l0r
Core 2 Duo seems pretty nice but good Mainboards are rare. Most boards available right now suffer from one or the other flaw that will be most likely fixed with the next series of boards coming out. AMD is not on par with the Core 2 Duo Chips but stills offers great value and is a very stable platform by now.

Get yourself 2GB Ram. If you got the $$$ add an X-Fi to your setup. It really makes a difference (at least for BF2).

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:00 pm
by DaGrooved1
You will probably say that it all depends on the price i got/im willing to spend on it, but lets just say that i got enough.
LMFAO!


Welp, if that's the case, I'd recommend getting the 3Dlabs Wildcat Realizm 800 (640 MB RAM) graphics card, that will cost you around 3000 alone...

http://shopper.cnet.com/3Dlabs_Wildcat_ ... 59162.html

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:36 pm
by Hashey
Look, i ain't that rich, you tosser :P

Anyways, i just want something that's good enough for now, but it doesn't have to be the best of the best that there is atm.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:47 am
by madcow
Hashey wrote:Look, i ain't that rich, you tosser :P

Anyways, i just want something that's good enough for now, but it doesn't have to be the best of the best that there is atm.
It would be faaar easier for people to help you if you divulged your budget.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:53 am
by Hitman47
Just a heads up, the duo core doesn't have any benefit for you, 'cause only a few games to none support it, and I would go for AMD not intel.....

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:09 pm
by Hashey
I got around €1000/1250 to spend.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:31 pm
by StarLord
Hitman47_088 wrote:Just a heads up, the duo core doesn't have any benefit for you, 'cause only a few games to none support it, and I would go for AMD not intel.....
Core 2 Duo of Intel is not about having 2 CPU instead of one, (And anyway, all the good AMD processors now are in dual too)

It's about the fact that it is better than his AMD counterpart for a lower price!

Intel Core 2 Duo
X6800 (2.93 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2) : 999$
E6700 (2.66 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2) : 530$
E6600 (2.40 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2) : 316$
E6400 (2.13 GHz, FSB1066, 2 Mo L2) : 224$
E6300 (1.86 GHz, FSB1066, 2 Mo L2) : 183$

Be suprised or not, but the Core 2 E6400 of intel is about the same strengh of the FX-62, for a price of 224$ instead of 700$...

So what I would advice you is this :

Processor : E6600 (316$)

Motherboard : Well, it's your choice, just make sure it fit your needs (The type and number of HDD you gonna use, 1 or 2 PCI-X16 slot, etc...) and make sure to choose one that the CPU gonna fit on ;) (Either one with the P965 chipset or the 975X (but not all the X975 fit the Core 2 Duo, just look at that)

Graphic Card : You've got a lot of choice on the web, find one that fit your price range, like Ge7600GT to Ge7800 or X1600XT to X1800GTO

RAM Memory : 2 GB of ram should be enought

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:38 pm
by Shrapnel
Here's what I would go with:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115004

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131030

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121001

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231087

CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835109122
- You'll need to buy a seperate fan for it.

That comes to around a grand US so you'll have $250 to spend on a case, sound card and HDDs or anything else you want. Looks like the X-Fi goes for about $120 so depending on the type of case you want you might not be able to get HDDs too, especially when you add in shipping as well.

Oh and don't forget the thermal paste. :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:08 pm
by Charger
Hark! Hark! The Quad-Cores are coming! The Quad-Cores are coming!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:23 pm
by StarLord
Personnally I dont see the reason of the CPU cooler, unless he want to overclock his CPU, which I dont think he want to, then, the CPU stock vent will be enough...

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:40 pm
by Shrapnel
Ok it might be a bit over kill. :P

I did say it was what I would buy though and I would OC it a little bit. Everything on that list is easy to OC, even the RAM is noted for it's ability to OC nicely with minimal over volting. I'm also a diminishing returns guy which is why I went for the lower CPU (estimates are it could OC higher than a stock P6600) and a middle of the road Mobo. The 975 chipset has nicer memory controlling than the 965 but for nearly double the price I don't think it's worth it. Especially when it would need/want to be uupgraded in about three years anyway. :?