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Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:05 am
by iRawPeanut
knorren wrote:Well, 99% of all users I've talked to want the option for SLI or CF, but maybe 5% of them actually get it later on. Most of them just buy a better graphics card, mostly cause either the card they have are not available anymore or that there is so little price difference to get a new better standalone card.
So with that Im saying, if you want CF with your current card you better buy it about now, in 6 months it may be out of stock.

Overclocking your cpu wont reduce the lifetime of it, those three years Jokerle are talking about is something Ive never heard about, I've been overclocking CPUs since 1997 and no one became any slower or broke down, except one that actually was burnt to a crisp but that was my own fault! :P
If you know what you're doing there's no danger at all. But you will lose your warranty even if you do it once then put it back to normal clocks (they can read that out somehow). But if you watch the Voltages and Temperatures (and know there max'es)
It "SHOULD BE" completely save ;)

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Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:56 am
by TheYonderGod
iRawPeanut wrote: But you will lose your warranty even if you do it once then put it back to normal clocks (they can read that out somehow)
No they can't.
They *might* be able to tell if you melt it by applying way too much voltage, but other than that there's no way for them to know.

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:03 am
by iRawPeanut
TheYonderGod wrote:
iRawPeanut wrote: But you will lose your warranty even if you do it once then put it back to normal clocks (they can read that out somehow)
No they can't.
They *might* be able to tell if you melt it by applying way too much voltage, but other than that there's no way for them to know.

I thought they could, or is that only with GPU's? because a friend of mine, overclocked it a bit but after that put it back to normal clocks, months later it broke (Much artifacts). They said it was because of the overclock(even though it was after that). And that there was no warranty anymore.

soo, it's not like that for CPU's?

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:53 am
by TheYonderGod
iRawPeanut wrote:
TheYonderGod wrote:
iRawPeanut wrote: But you will lose your warranty even if you do it once then put it back to normal clocks (they can read that out somehow)
No they can't.
They *might* be able to tell if you melt it by applying way too much voltage, but other than that there's no way for them to know.

I thought they could, or is that only with GPU's? because a friend of mine, overclocked it a bit but after that put it back to normal clocks, months later it broke (Much artifacts). They said it was because of the overclock(even though it was after that). And that there was no warranty anymore.

soo, it's not like that for CPU's?
Unless he overclocked the GPU by editing the BIOS, no, there's no way they could have known. They were just guessing :roll:

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:30 am
by Necromancer
i taught it would be easy and simply add an "overclock" bit to the card.

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:41 am
by Calloutman
If there's no point going for a crossfire option, is there any reason to buy a decent motherboard? If I simply bought the cheapest one possible would there be a problem. Sure it would mean I couldn't OC the processor but that's not the end of the world...

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:30 am
by Calloutman
Hopefully I'll be able to do some light overclocking with this. Got the more powerful PSU to cope with any future GPU upgrades which would be in the form of single card upgrades - not crossfire.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS7000C-Cu Ball Bearing CPU Cooler (£15.53 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£76.20 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.17 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£56.54 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £481.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-14 14:28 GMT+0000)

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:48 am
by iRawPeanut
Calloutman wrote:If there's no point going for a crossfire option, is there any reason to buy a decent motherboard? If I simply bought the cheapest one possible would there be a problem. Sure it would mean I couldn't OC the processor but that's not the end of the world...
Nope not a big difference, the price difference on motherboards is generally how much options you have.

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:14 pm
by knorren
Calloutman wrote:Hopefully I'll be able to do some light overclocking with this. Got the more powerful PSU to cope with any future GPU upgrades which would be in the form of single card upgrades - not crossfire.
Well what I could find on that motherboard and overclocking, you won't have any problem, it seems to be quite good for overclocking.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1998/

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:36 pm
by Calloutman
Calloutman wrote:Hopefully I'll be able to do some light overclocking with this. Got the more powerful PSU to cope with any future GPU upgrades which would be in the form of single card upgrades - not crossfire.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS7000C-Cu Ball Bearing CPU Cooler (£15.53 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£76.20 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.17 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£56.54 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £481.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-14 14:28 GMT+0000)
Unless anyone has any more input I'm thinking of going with this...

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:24 pm
by iRawPeanut
Calloutman wrote:
Calloutman wrote:Hopefully I'll be able to do some light overclocking with this. Got the more powerful PSU to cope with any future GPU upgrades which would be in the form of single card upgrades - not crossfire.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS7000C-Cu Ball Bearing CPU Cooler (£15.53 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£76.20 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.17 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£56.54 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £481.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-14 14:28 GMT+0000)
Unless anyone has any more input I'm thinking of going with this...

I don't really like that cooler, but yeah that's more subjective then objective ;).

Go buy it! :mrgreen:

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:29 pm
by Calloutman
My bank account just took a rather large hit :mrgreen:

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:17 pm
by Jokerle
Calloutman wrote:My bank account just took a rather large hit :mrgreen:
Tell us how is runs, once it runs.

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:20 pm
by Calloutman
Jokerle wrote:
Calloutman wrote:My bank account just took a rather large hit :mrgreen:
Tell us how is runs, once it runs.
Will do, although some of the suppliers look like they may take a while to dispatch.

Re: New computer time!!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:30 am
by Necromancer