Not doing anything about the air camp rule on Ghost Town about a week ago. Lister and I were both getting killed on the ground on the pad and nothing was done even though we had told our HC and they told you. It took about 3 rounds later till something was actually being done and even than you told us to take screenshots. Which is complete bullshit in my opinion.
I'd like to thank you Ash for stepping up and atleast watching the helo pad, I do remember that.
I was the part of the chopper team on the later half of those rounds. First off, from last campaign shooting infantry on the helo pad or near it with a helo or plane was completely acceptable. The only thing unacceptable was destroying the helo or plane while still on the ground and ramming. Second off, from my prospective, you initiated this "air camp". Third off, you were never kicked for your infractions of violating these same "air camp" rules.
Were you in the helo at he time? If not you bring up a very good point here, what heppens when there are infantry on the helo pad? Are they legit targets or should no one on the helo pad be shot at/bombed?
Also the other day I saw the armor AA sitting right next to, and partly on, the helo pad, should the airforce not bomd them if they are on the helo pad? If there are only infantry near the helo pad and/or armor aren't they fair game? Especially if they are firing at you?
Just something to think about... I don't think the enemy should use the helo pad and expect not to get shot at or bombed. (just my opinion)
I agree with SSnake_Plissken and strongly oppose any rule that gives infantry, AA, and anything else immunity from air strikes as long as they remain at or near the helo pad or airstrip. This rule can and will be abused. Why change the rules now after C8 ran rather smoothly?
Both HCs (and other ranks) have Executive Senate members (our boss). They can pull our kicking powers at any time. These kicks are being done with oversight, discussion, and feedback with the intention of correcting the ignoring or circumvention of the rules. None of this is news to the HCs or Execs. Its been contantly discussed since BFI in the HC,TA, Nuetrals forum.
Well if these new changes were discussed so frequently why were none of the enlisted men in my army ever informed, myself included? Apparently we have played 2 battledays with these new rules and various people have been kicked for breaking rules they knew nothing about. Somewhere the ball was dropped.
Part of what Brummie is asking with this thread is what should we do about the rules as a community? Get rid of the rules? Only warn and not kick? Kick harder? Change the rules? Change the TAs? Assign kicking to HCs? Bottom line is what is going to work for everyone?
How about less kicking and more warning? In C8 I hardly remember any kickings. This is because warning first was the TA reprimand of choice, not kicking first and ask questions later. Not only do you kick first but your kicks are severe. I was kicked for 15 mins after completing a bombing run on operation clean sweep for apparent violation of your new "air camp" rule. Was that entirely necessary, 15min kick, on a first offense with no prior warning?
HCs are frustrated with the numbers also and we were requested at one point to clear/kick players starting with negative scores.
Were you requested to kick our pilot on operation clean sweep due to numbers? Because thats exactly what happened after your 15min kick was lifted, I rejoined the battle in the begging the of the 2nd round only to be promptly kicked "due to numbers", at this point I was fed up with the bullshit and left for the day.
This is my two cents, if I offended anyone please accept my apologies.