BF3 Commander mod

[Necromancer]

PB is a piece of crap really.
they can detect only known hacks (aka free hacks) because they make specific checks for each hack they got.
good wallhacks cannot be detected by the PB software. when PB asks for hardware picture, they detect PBs calls and turn themselves off for that single frame. so it comes out clean. or simply produce a black screen thats also wildly caused not because of hacks but hardware combinations.

aimbots used to be easy to detect when the crosshair would insta-jump to the enemy head (and you could follow other players in spectator mode), but these also improved to imitate human responses. having "turning" time/frames, settings to hit different body parts, keep the accuracy low and more.

PB is a crap piece of software that causes more lag then doing anything useful most of the times. the problem lies in the fact evenbalance is the only company to supply anti-cheat to FPS games. maybe they would do better if they had someone to compete with.

And btw, its possible to render wallhacks, which a lot harder to detect, almost completely useless when designing the net code. for every player, its possible to check who is in his lines of sight (which is done for every bot player in his "shoot" functions) and send only the data of players in his line of sight, instead the information of all players.
but its more complicate to do, so i guess we won't see it in the near future.

[RazY70]

PB isn't crap and a lot of cheaters have been caught. Yes, PB is not without its problems, but I'd rather have it around than nothing at all. In the war against hackers anti-cheat applications will always have the lower hand. I would hate to see how things rolled without any protection.
Would you rather each game take even longer to start and end as your system is scanned and validated? Or maybe your performance downgraded to a crawl because of the resources taken? Even leagues such as ESL with all their proprietary anti-cheat tools are known to have hackers. Everyone thinks they can come up with a better solution, but so far I haven't seen any effective and non-intrusive one.

[knorren]

In BF2 revealing cheaters was easier due to demos we were recording during battles. But BF3 doesn't support that and many other features and I have Premium...

Those were the days. First playing a PCW or CW and afterwards watching the video that got recorded and being able to switch between players and views.
Was the program used called Battle Recorder, I can't remember right now?

[KoffeinFlummi]

I agree with Raz. PB isn't perfect (it is actually kind of bad), but it's the best we have currently. And right now i don't think that the mods we have right now are worth sacrificing the only anti-cheat we have.
Right now this mod is basically just a modified MAV (i'm not saying it's not a great mod), and as long as it doesn't have any tactical options and we can't try it for ourselves, it's not worth sacrificing PB. Also, while doing it on our server might be save without PB, having everyone using it have to repair their install to play on pubs, it's just too risky. Maybe once PB says that they won't ban, just kick, for it, maybe. But right now, it just seems too risky.

[Necromancer]

FYI PB is intrusive and cause a lot of framedrops and connection problems. it varys from one system to another, and between different games, but it does have quite an impact at times.
intrusive ? just so you know, pnkbstr processes may scan your entire HDD and RAM, and take Screenshots of your game as well. these screenshots are then sent to the server while you play. yeah, its capped to 3 SS for 10 minutes, but it can still have a bad impact on your gaming experience.
PB MD5 checks used to cause massive frame drops for months (in other game), and their cap of *i don't know, about 10-15 checks per 5? secs) didn't help at all.

now it doesn't cause frame drop, and most admins don't even know what PB is so they don't set the auto SS on, and with 10Mb/s connection its probably not noticeable. sure its better then nothing, but PB quality is poor nonetheless.

[Gwynzer]

I'm lead to believe it was a paid for hack in this occasion. PB does detect quite a few, they just wait for quite a while before banning if it is still being distrubuted.

Obviously, the custom made and/or tightly controlled cheats are very hard to do anything with.

[.Sup]

In BF2 revealing cheaters was easier due to demos we were recording during battles. But BF3 doesn't support that and many other features and I have Premium...

Those were the days. First playing a PCW or CW and afterwards watching the video that got recorded and being able to switch between players and views.
Was the program used called Battle Recorder, I can't remember right now?

yup it was! I couldn't remember either, at first I was about to write Battlelog but then remembered that is something else...

[elchino7]

"Originally Posted by DarkLord7854 (DICE employee) "

As always, can do whatever you want in Unranked servers. I just hope nobody tries to join Ranked servers with that

Regarding a free camera machinima mod.

Regarding PB:
PB doesnt detect crap. I have to keep manually banning cheaters who get into the server. But, its the only thing we have.

Regarding using any mod for GC:
Until theres a general approbation from PB, i agree on not using them for GC. The only viable for now is the one on Level since its an external app.

[Necromancer]

Regarding a free camera machinima mod.
its an external app.

wait, what does this mod do? does that allows you to freely float around the map on PB enabled server?
would be great to have one correspondent on each side floating around taking pictures of the battledays!

[RazY70]

FYI PB is intrusive and cause a lot of framedrops and connection problems. it varys from one system to another, and between different games, but it does have quite an impact at times.
intrusive ? just so you know, pnkbstr processes may scan your entire HDD and RAM, and take Screenshots of your game as well. these screenshots are then sent to the server while you play. yeah, its capped to 3 SS for 10 minutes, but it can still have a bad impact on your gaming experience.
PB MD5 checks used to cause massive frame drops for months (in other game), and their cap of *i don't know, about 10-15 checks per 5? secs) didn't help at all.

now it doesn't cause frame drop, and most admins don't even know what PB is so they don't set the auto SS on, and with 10Mb/s connection its probably not noticeable. sure its better then nothing, but PB quality is poor nonetheless.

I'm not talking about that kind of intrusion. They can scan whatever they want. I'm talking those in your face kind of intrusion e.g. activation messages, long loading sessions, scanning bars, extended uploading of information, etc. like you get for example from ESL Wire. I think PB is pretty modest in that respect. Like I said, it has problems and is certainly far from perfect, but I assume that if there was something significantly better it would've been used.

[elchino7]

Regarding a free camera machinima mod.
its an external app.

wait, what does this mod do? does that allows you to freely float around the map on PB enabled server?
would be great to have one correspondent on each side floating around taking pictures of the battledays!

http://theblue.co/freecam.php