Global Conflict

Do 4vs4 IMO it doesnt allow teams to be as stacked as they can be for a 5vs5

Here is a video Giggles recorded, also we should ban slugs.

As far as I can tell an ESL Versus 5v5 match usually takes around 20-30 min (note: only one side)

ELS Versus rules:
Serversettings:
Mode: Conquest (small), default tickets, killcam off, friendly fire on.

Weapon/Item Restrictions:
MAV drone, spawn beacon, M320 (only standard/LVG version forbidden, M320 buck and smoke are still allowed), IRNV Scope, Tactical Light (including pistols with tactical light)

The use of the following weapons is not allowed:
AUG A3, SCAR-L, L86A2, LSAT, ACW-R, MTAR-21, M417, JNG-90, SPAS-12, M5K, XBOW, Slug Ammo, M26 Slug, Vehicles (Jeeps) are not allowed. Any player disregarding these rules should be reported via report functionality on matchsheet after the match. The match has to be played to the end.

Map pool:
Operation Metro, Damavand Peak, Grand Bazaar, Seine Crossing, Tehran Highway

Server Settings:
vars.teamKillCountForKick 0
vars.teamKillKickForBan 0
vars.idleTimeout 0
vars.killCam 0
vars.vehicleSpawnAllowed 0
vars.soldierHealth 100
vars.playerRespawnTime 100
vars.3pCam 0
vars.regenerateHealth 1
vars.friendlyFire 1
vars.playerManDownTime 100
vars.bulletDamage 100
vars.minimap 1
vars.hud 1
vars.miniMapSpotting 1
vars.3dSpotting 1
vars.nameTag 1
vars.onlySquadLeaderSpawn 0
vars.gameModeCounter 100

RazY70 wrote:
ELS Versus rules:

The use of the following weapons is not allowed:
AUG A3, SCAR-L, L86A2, LSAT, ACW-R, MTAR-21, M417, JNG-90, SPAS-12, M5K, XBOW, Slug Ammo, M26 Slug, Vehicles (Jeeps) are not allowed. Any player disregarding these rules should be reported via report functionality on matchsheet after the match.

Are they ? I can see the point in excluding CQ weapons (not necessarily agree, though) like M5K, MTAR and shotguns. The aug-a3 is OP in quick-peaking (faster ADS movement) like other bullpup weapons. You may agree to not use it for some reason...

What is the point with the LSAT or the L86A2 or the ACW-R or the JNG-90 ?

If we do do conquest, I really think it should be 5v5. With the random signups it shouldnt be an issue randomly drawing groups of 5 as opposed to 4 right?
Also I think we should stick to our old ruleset. The rules were interesting, and a nice change from the normal settings.
I dont think we should ban any weapon either, GC people dont always use the m16 etc. and itd be silly to force them into it. I for one would love to be able to use my trusty AUG

Jokerle wrote:

RazY70 wrote:
ELS Versus rules:

The use of the following weapons is not allowed:
AUG A3, SCAR-L, L86A2, LSAT, ACW-R, MTAR-21, M417, JNG-90, SPAS-12, M5K, XBOW, Slug Ammo, M26 Slug, Vehicles (Jeeps) are not allowed. Any player disregarding these rules should be reported via report functionality on matchsheet after the match.

Are they ? I can see the point in excluding CQ weapons (not necessarily agree, though) like M5K, MTAR and shotguns. The aug-a3 is OP in quick-peaking (faster ADS movement) like other bullpup weapons. You may agree to not use it for some reason...

What is the point with the LSAT or the L86A2 or the ACW-R or the JNG-90 ?

They ban all DLC weapons because not everyone has access to them.


For us there's no reason to ban anything except slugs and m320, and even then I think GC members have enough respect to just not abuse them so we don't need to make it a rule. Though I also thought we all had enough respect to not flame other members, but I was proven wrong earlier in this thread, so maybe we do need the rule....

TheYonderGod wrote: They ban all DLC weapons because not everyone has access to them.

Thx. This I can understand.
hmmm.... all are expansion weapons? Guess I am too premium spoiled to notice...

5 v 5 conquest is probably the most played gamemode in comp bf3 as it’s a good balance between numbers and skill. The aim should have been to use this tournament to attract more people to GC campaigns as recently attendance has been flagging, therefore having this posted up on battlelog/reddit etc would have helped us inform more people about GC. In regards to weapons, slugs, frag rounds, m320’s should be banned. Other than that everything else is fine, ESL rules are hardly the standard anywhere in bf3. And yes going back to what yonder said, we probably need to have some rules around respect as well, people conveniently remember one aspect of GC and forget the others to their liking.

KILLERCANKILL wrote:5 v 5 conquest is probably the most played gamemode in comp bf3 as it’s a good balance between numbers and skill. The aim should have been to use this tournament to attract more people to GC campaigns as recently attendance has been flagging, therefore having this posted up on battlelog/reddit etc would have helped us inform more people about GC.

I never saw the interim tournaments as a recruiting tool for GC. I like holding these tournaments for the GC community rather than for outside people. If we ever need new players, we can always do a Reddit blast like we have done in the past.

How does 5v5 work though? 2 squads that are split?

It's usually 3-man squad and 2-man squad but it depends on the team leader.

Is it possible to change one's vote?

For what it's worth, I think squad rush would be better and/or more fun for most people.

1) It's easier to make up strategies on the fly (which would benefit random squads) because
2) You play in closer proximity to your squadmates/objectives aren't so spread out, therefore
3) You won't have one person watching highway on Grand Bazaar the whole game, therefore
4) It's somewhat less dependent on individual skill.

Bock wrote:Is it possible to change one's vote?

I'll take note of it. Which would you like to change to?

See my edit. I want to change from conquest to rush.

Bock wrote:See my edit. I want to change from conquest to rush.

Copy Copy!

It's also alot nicer to watch. Low-playercount conquest is just boring.