Global Conflict

styphon wrote:If we enable 3D spotting it wont be long before people start complaining about how overpowered choppers are. They will start raping as all they have to do is shoot at the doritos popping up on their screen, instead of actually having to spot the troops below them.

3D spotting isn't the answer and would be a mistake for GC.

As always, everything has a plus and a minus.

styphon wrote:If we enable 3D spotting it wont be long before people start complaining about how overpowered choppers are. They will start raping as all they have to do is shoot at the doritos popping up on their screen, instead of actually having to spot the troops below them.

3D spotting isn't the answer and would be a mistake for GC.

Thats your opinion, i think it would solve more problems and i am pretty confident, it would balance out alot.
(and thats my personal opinion)

Isnt the dorito popping up, when hovering with your aim above the enemy, even without 3d Spotting?
I thought it does, but i might be mistaken.

with Chef on that one.

Chefcook wrote:

styphon wrote:If we enable 3D spotting it wont be long before people start complaining about how overpowered choppers are. They will start raping as all they have to do is shoot at the doritos popping up on their screen, instead of actually having to spot the troops below them.

3D spotting isn't the answer and would be a mistake for GC.

Thats your opinion, i think it would solve more problems and i am pretty confident, it would balance out alot.
(and thats my personal opinion)

Isnt the dorito popping up, when hovering with your aim above the enemy, even without 3d Spotting?
I thought it does, but i might be mistaken.

Yes, but only you can see it and it's only while you are aiming directly at the enemy. With 3D spotting you spot someone a dorito pops up for everyone with LOS to see, whether they are hovering over them or not.

styphon wrote: Yes, but only you can see it and it's only while you are aiming directly at the enemy. With 3D spotting you spot someone a dorito pops up for everyone with LOS to see, whether they are hovering over them or not.

Thats what they want.

styphon wrote:

Chefcook wrote:

styphon wrote:If we enable 3D spotting it wont be long before people start complaining about how overpowered choppers are. They will start raping as all they have to do is shoot at the doritos popping up on their screen, instead of actually having to spot the troops below them.

3D spotting isn't the answer and would be a mistake for GC.

Thats your opinion, i think it would solve more problems and i am pretty confident, it would balance out alot.
(and thats my personal opinion)

Isnt the dorito popping up, when hovering with your aim above the enemy, even without 3d Spotting?
I thought it does, but i might be mistaken.

Yes, but only you can see it and it's only while you are aiming directly at the enemy. With 3D spotting you spot someone a dorito pops up for everyone with LOS to see, whether they are hovering over them or not.

Surely if both generals agree on 3D spotting then argument solved, I thought it was up to the generals to agree how a campaign was run and the rules from previous campaigns and then up to the TA's to enforce what was decided.... didn't realise it was dictated from the TA's on how it is going to be despite generals agreeing on the rules they want to have??

Maybe I have got this wrong but to me why are rules been enforced so heavily without movement?

Haz

The community decide the fairplay rules and server settings, with common sense oversight from the TAs, Execs and the Generals.

The campaign system is more or less up to the TAs and Generals, though they welcome input from the community.

Generals dictate rules in their own army as well as its implementation/organization.

Bottom line is the community is in charge of GC and if they want something to change all they have to do is prove the majority of the membership wants the change.

Total_focus_haz wrote:Surely if both generals agree on 3D spotting then argument solved, I thought it was up to the generals to agree how a campaign was run and the rules from previous campaigns and then up to the TA's to enforce what was decided.... didn't realise it was dictated from the TA's on how it is going to be despite generals agreeing on the rules they want to have??

Maybe I have got this wrong but to me why are rules been enforced so heavily without movement?

Haz

This is just a discussion. Just because I'm a TA doesn't mean I'm excluded from stating my opinion. I would prefer to see things stay as they are with 3D spotting off. It's my opinion that turning 3D spotting on is a very bad solution to the SOFLAM problem.

Please don't ever insinuate I would try to dictate anything in GC. That's not how I am. I always try to confer with my fellow TAs before taking any action and keep things in the spirit of GC.

Man I wish I could make the rules .

Haz it is as you say. Obviously if something is a real issue we could step in but the community is what counts.

Von_Krieg wrote:Man I wish I could make the rules .

Haz it is as you say. Obviously if something is a real issue we could step in but the community is what counts.

It's all that I want to see is a campaign that brings back regular players again and we can get Tuesday battles back on.. Sometimes too many rules over shadow what is a game people know how to play respectfully and really a TA should never have to get involved as that's what generals and their HC are there to do is work issues out!!

Thanks

Haz

Don't worry guys, a lot of people have requested 3D spotting therefore a poll will be held to see if the majority wants it. We'll hold the poll after the draft and before the BFI and the outcome will determine whether or not it is on this campaign.

Bottom line is the community is in charge of GC and if they want something to change all they have to do is prove the majority of the membership wants the change.

Lets put 3d spotting up for a community vote. It seems there are enough of us who support activating it to make us the majority.


-Edit madcow beat me to it heh...

Total_focus_haz wrote:

Von_Krieg wrote:Man I wish I could make the rules .

Haz it is as you say. Obviously if something is a real issue we could step in but the community is what counts.

It's all that I want to see is a campaign that brings back regular players again and we can get Tuesday battles back on.. Sometimes too many rules over shadow what is a game people know how to play respectfully and really a TA should never have to get involved as that's what generals and their HC are there to do is work issues out!!

Thanks

Haz

This makes the TA's job easy. I'm all for TA's no longer playing neutral 3rd party, babysit, warn, implement, or punish if any rule is broken. Its all between the generals and their HC. All the TA's do is keep score and make sure the server is running. If a general has an issue with the other army, he can discuss it with his counterpart as the battle rages on. If they cant agree, then he can kick the offending players and general from the server.

Ash2Dust wrote:

Total_focus_haz wrote:

Von_Krieg wrote:Man I wish I could make the rules .

Haz it is as you say. Obviously if something is a real issue we could step in but the community is what counts.

It's all that I want to see is a campaign that brings back regular players again and we can get Tuesday battles back on.. Sometimes too many rules over shadow what is a game people know how to play respectfully and really a TA should never have to get involved as that's what generals and their HC are there to do is work issues out!!

Thanks

Haz

This makes the TA's job easy. I'm all for TA's no longer playing neutral 3rd party, babysit, warn, implement, or punish if any rule is broken. Its all between the generals and their HC. All the TA's do is keep score and make sure the server is running. If a general has an issue with the other army, he can discuss it with his counterpart as the battle rages on. If they cant agree, then he can kick the offending players and general from the server.

I actually prefer it as it is. Being part of HC I know how much work it is to organize squads, individuals, FC and communicate with neutrals/TA and to monitor that all external rules plus internal army rules are followed is too much. Often there is only one member of HC present and for him to do all that is too much.

Plus you need someone without any bias to manage the campaign system. Especially when it becomes more complicated with the Risk rules, fog of war, etc.