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Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:42 pm
by styphon
EARLY BATTLE DAY FOR EU MEMBERS

Just a reminder to all EU players that this Saturday the battle day will be 1 hour early for all of you. Clocks went back in Europe last weekend, however GC will not change until this coming Sunday, when the NA guys change.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:27 pm
by Ash2Dust
For non-NA players, it will be SBT -1 for this Saturdays battle.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:58 pm
by Necromancer
can you please post an explicit GMT/UTC/popular time zones/ time?

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:00 pm
by styphon
Necromancer wrote:can you please post an explicit GMT/UTC/popular time zones/ time?
17:00 UTC, it hasn't changed yet. You really should learn SBT though, it makes everything so much simpler.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:17 pm
by Necromancer
i know SBT in my region. i mean can you post what time it WILL be on on Saturday, after EU changes?

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:19 pm
by Ash2Dust
Necromancer wrote:i know SBT in my region. i mean can you post what time it WILL be on on Saturday, after EU changes?
17:00 UTC

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:03 pm
by styphon
Necromancer wrote:i know SBT in my region. i mean can you post what time it WILL be on on Saturday, after EU changes?
It will be at 17:00 UTC, because it doesn't change until the following week when NA goes back an hour. If you know SBT then you shouldn't bother with UTC, it confuses things. Just turn up at SBT -1.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:10 pm
by mrBLUE9
As a guy that don't live neither on Europe or USA this confuses me. Is the SBT always staying the same? Because that's what I think should happen, whoever is entering/leaving DST should adjust according. Otherwise I will have to change the time 3 times in a year, one for EU DST, one for USA DST and one for my country's DST. If the SBT stays always the same and people adjust according to their time then I just need to adjust to my DST.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:26 pm
by Hgx
Agree with my SA broda, im lost here :P
But i'll show up at the same time as always anyway.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:23 am
by Ash2Dust
Check the web to see what 17:00 UTC/GMT is for you in your time zone.
This Saturday's battle will be 17:00 UTC/GMT.
Really, 17:00 UTC/GMT.

again for this Saturday's battle 17:00 UTC/GMT
click here if ur still not sure.
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_ ... &h=17&mn=0

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:30 am
by mrBLUE9
Yes, that is the time that I thought it was. My question is if the SBT will always be 17h00 UTC or will it change with someone's DST?

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:34 am
by Ash2Dust
It changes with the US DST in Fall and the EU DST in Spring.

The following battle on Nov 10 will be 18:00 UTC/GMT until next spring.
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_ ... &h=18&mn=0

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:54 am
by Ash2Dust
If you did not end DST this last weekend like most Europeans did, then Standard Battle Time will be the same this Saturday. This post is to remind people on EU DST that Standard Battle Time (SBT) will be different for this Saturday only.

The weekend after, the US will finally end DST, pushing the battle start to UTC/GMT to 18:00
If you never have DST in your region, you will see the battleday ping pong between 17:00 and 18:00 each year.
Hopefully we remember to remind people about the ping pong in advance.

In Spring, when Europeans start DST, the battle start will be 17:00

NABO will follow US DST times.
EUBO will follow EU DST times.

Yes, much confusion. Simplest I can restate the above:
Starting Next Tuesday, EUBO and NABO will be and hour later for non-DST people along with Saturday Main battle until Next spring.
Man I hope I got that right.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:56 am
by mrBLUE9
Ash2Dust wrote:It changes with the US DST in Fall and the EU DST in Spring.

The following battle on Nov 10 will be 18:00 UTC/GMT until next spring.
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_ ... &h=18&mn=0
Ok, thanks, Ash!

As a suggestion I think it would be cool setting a time that wouldn't change, maybe choosing a timezone that doesn't have DST. I think it would be easier for everyone to know their SBT.

Re: Early Saturday for EU

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:21 am
by Ash2Dust
I agree it would make things logistically easier to have a static UTC/GMT time all year for a few members that dont have DST.
The problem is the majority player base is EU and NA and their time of day changes twice a year. Attendance has consistently shown attendance issues when starting or stopping by an hour offset. Adding to that problem, the EU DST and NA DST dont happen at the same time.

Due to life, work schedules, and sleep patterns forced by DST:
Its hard for EU's to stay up an hour later with DST's, they stay up really late as it is.
Its hard for NA's to join an hour earlier with DST''s, they cant get off work earlier or wake up sooner.

No matter what we do, someone will be confused. Comes down to how to keep the confusion down to a minimum number of members.

Twice a year, we will have to post and remind those people affected.
This weekend, its just the EU DST's affected for one Saturday battle. The following weekend, anyone not on the EU or NA DST will be affected.

Really wish DST never existed. Then this problem wouldnt exist.